all they are doing is stimulating the economy. >> josh? >> i wonder if they are getting what they want out of this. again, i don't think it's about influencing electoral outcomes. it's changing the discussion for entertainment. they want the e lek tral outcome he prefers. i think these people see value in changing the discussion and getting people to talk about barack obama as a socialist. >> totally. talk about the debt and deficit. when democracy now sent a reporter around to talk to the rnc, they got david coke on the camera. why are you spending all this money. the debt and the deficit. the debt and the deficit. there's a lot of pollute cats that want to talk about this. if you poll them, the number one issue is debt and deficit. the conversation is debt and deficit. the correlation are not an accident. >> it's amazing why we haven't heard about climate change, poverty, housing foreclosure and crisis. they are not issues they really want to be part of. there is a role that the democratic party could play in pushing those forward. this